[darcs-devel] Curl build issues
Gwern Branwen
gwern0 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 17 03:37:39 UTC 2008
On 2008.04.16 10:01:15 -0700, Jason Dagit <dagit at codersbase.com> scribbled 14K characters:
> If included, I would say we rely on Gwern to keep it working for now. And if volunteers
> (read, Not-David), don't want to keep it working then we could chuck it at that time (assuming
> having a non-working cabal file is creating a problem). You know what including it entails
> more than me, but that's how I would hope it can work. Those who don't want cabal can ignore
> it and those that do can deal with it breaking and whatnot.
Yes, I think this is a good idea. I've tried hard to make the changes non-invasive so that undoing it would consist basically of 'rm Setup.lhs darcs.cabal darcs.buildinfo*' - specifically so this wouldn't be seen as some big bang which broke everything if it wasn't perfect.
> Maybe it would even be worthwhile to assign someone to partial maintainer roles? For example,
> someone is in charge of reviewing changes to the build system and keeping it working smoothly
> and you don't actually review those patches. This designated person wouldn't even need apply
> permission, they would just need to sign off on patches that touch the build system(s). With
> the rule that you don't review that part of patches and make it clear when patches affecting
> the build come in that you're not going to accept them until someone (a designated person)
> takes the time to approve them. It may sound very formal, but we could experiment with it.
> And not just for this detail. Maybe it's how darcs should operate. Have we tried this in the
> past? I certainly think for this to work we need to assign someone specific as to avoid
> social loafing.
>
> I could take this responsibility on if you like. I'm terribly inexperienced with the
> autotools stuff, but this would force me to learn it better and cabal too. Plus, I have to
> start somewhere and I think I want to be a darcs maintainer some day. I think I've learned
> enough about the core that if I can rely on you and the other seasoned darcs devs for help
> that I could do a better job than having no little or no regular maintenance.
> I wonder if this should be a feature request sent to the cabal devs and you could work with
> them to support this? Again, I just don't like the idea of starting over.
>
> Jason
At the very least, it's worth asking them how they deal with the current situation and what the plan is for the future. Cabal is, I think, more powerful than most people give it credit for.
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