[Evolution] Couple of questions - profile and bash

Steve steve at tdrtax.co.uk
Fri Feb 16 09:16:48 UTC 2018


Thank you all, and particularly Pete Biggs for theee detailed
explanation.
I believe that TB simply creates a .lock file in the mail location and
checks for it's existence, rather than using file locking itself.
If migrating my pop server to IMAP is trivial then thattt's what I'll
do.
Thank you again.
Steve
On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 09:05 +0000, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 04:26 +0000, Steve wrote:
> > Thank you to all who have answered.
> > 
> > My problem is, 3 of my email addresses are on a private VPS located
> > in another country. The location itself is not so much of an issue,
> > but when I set up the server (dovecot/postfix) I only configured it
> > for POP, and changing to IMAP will mean completely reconfiguring my
> > server, which I'm loathe to do since it's also hosts my primary
> > email
> > address, and has been working well in the current configuration for
> > the past 4 - 5 years. I recall it took me an age to get it working
> > correctly
> 
> Adding IMAP to dovecot is trivial and won't affect your current POP
> configuration.  In dovecot.conf just change "potocols" line to read 
> 
>    protocols = imap pop3
> 
> and make sure the imap/imaps ports (143/993) are unblocked at the
> firewall. That is it. Everything else will continue to work as
> before. 
> It will use the same authentication methods and mail store for IMAP
> as
> for POP.
> 
> > Besides, it doesn't explain the slow startup (TB startup as normal
> > regardless of where the mail dir was), nor does it explain the
> > addressbook issues.
> 
> I thought I had in the first reply I sent you.  It's to do with file
> locking. Evolution assumes that its private store of data (i.e. where
> it stores the "On My Computer" stuff) is local to the machine and so
> uses a particular type of file locking. File locks are a particularly
> troublesome area of NFS and some of the kludges in NFS to try and
> cope
> with it are nasty and horrible and slow. It's probably not helped by
> using symbolic links.
> 
> TB is probably designed differently and will use a different file
> locking process if it sees files are on a remote server.  Remember,
> what you are doing is playing around with Evolution's internal data
> storage locations - that is going to be unpredictable.
> 
> If you don't want to deal with IMAP, then rather than changing the On
> My Computer location, you could try putting the mail in a completely
> separate location on the NFS server and creating an account of type
> "Maildir format mail directories" to point to it. You can then use
> filters to move incoming mail into that location.
> 
> I don't know if Evolution will behave better in that configuration,
> but
> it will be much, much better than playing around with the default
> locations.
> 
> P.
> 
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