[Evolution-users] Hung/slow deletes in Evo 3.58 (IMAP)?

Pete Biggs pete at biggs.org.uk
Thu Oct 2 14:15:42 UTC 2025


On Thu, 2025-10-02 at 09:21 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> I recently updated my Evolution to 3.58.0 (flatpak, running on Ubuntu
> 20.04 LTS in Gnome / X) and I'm seeing two odd behaviors in my IMAPx
> account:
> 
> First, sometimes when I delete messages the messages sit in my folder,
> marked with strikethrough, for quite a while (minutes, sometimes).  I
> can even delete more messages and those also sit there, struck through,
> but still visible.  The message count on the folder does not drop.  If
> I switch away to another folder the message count will suddenly drop
> and when I switch back, the messages have disappeared.

I think this sort of thing is an interaction between Evolution and the
IMAP server.  Sorry if this is going over things that you already know:
the historic IMAP default for deleting things is to mark the message as
deleted and then sometime in the future purge the deleted messages;
this is how Evo still handles deleting messages internally. Many IMAP
providers now don't particularly play well with this paradigm and by
default use a Trash folder of some form and Evo will also now do that,
but it implements it by copying the deleted message to the Trash, then
marking the message as deleted in the Inbox (or wherever); those marked
messages are usually then purged immediately(ish) by the server or
purged by Evo when changing folders. I use iCloud mail and it takes
about 4 or 5 seconds for the deleted messages to actually disappear.

So, for your particular issue, it may be that the IMAP provider has
changed it's frequency of removing marked messages; it may also be that
in the past you were not seeing the marked messages and that may have
been accidentally changed (View -> Show Deleted Messages).

> 
> Instead I would expect that after deleting an entire thread, the next
> message after the thread would be selected like this:
> 
>   -This is a thread-
>     -Re: This is a thread-
>       -Re: This is a thread-
> > This is a new message
> 
> Again maybe it's always worked this way and I never noticed since
> normally my deleted messages are immediately moved to trash.

I think that is the case. If the deleted messages aren't visible, it
won't select them!

P.



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