[Evolution-users] Hung/slow deletes in Evo 3.58 (IMAP)?

[Van Snyder]

On Thu, 2025-10-02 at 15:15 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Thu, 2025-10-02 at 09:21 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> > I recently updated my Evolution to 3.58.0 (flatpak, running on
> > Ubuntu
> > 20.04 LTS in Gnome / X) and I'm seeing two odd behaviors in my
> > IMAPx
> > account:
> > 
> > First, sometimes when I delete messages the messages sit in my
> > folder,
> > marked with strikethrough, for quite a while (minutes, sometimes). 
> > I
> > can even delete more messages and those also sit there, struck
> > through,
> > but still visible.  The message count on the folder does not drop. 
> > If
> > I switch away to another folder the message count will suddenly
> > drop
> > and when I switch back, the messages have disappeared.

I have a slightly different problem with the sbcglobal.net, actually
Yahoo! by AT&T. Deleted messages return after they're "expunged."

And too frequently while I'm reading a message the upper "table of
contents" pane is entirely updated, sometimes suddenly showing messages
that were not previously displayed but have four-hour-old time stamps.
And when it does this, it decides I really really want to be reading
(or deleting) a different message. I'm on 3.58.1.1 on Debian 13 Trixie.

> 
> I think this sort of thing is an interaction between Evolution and
> the
> IMAP server.  Sorry if this is going over things that you already
> know:
> the historic IMAP default for deleting things is to mark the message
> as
> deleted and then sometime in the future purge the deleted messages;
> this is how Evo still handles deleting messages internally. Many IMAP
> providers now don't particularly play well with this paradigm and by
> default use a Trash folder of some form and Evo will also now do
> that,
> but it implements it by copying the deleted message to the Trash,
> then
> marking the message as deleted in the Inbox (or wherever); those
> marked
> messages are usually then purged immediately(ish) by the server or
> purged by Evo when changing folders. I use iCloud mail and it takes
> about 4 or 5 seconds for the deleted messages to actually disappear.
> 
> So, for your particular issue, it may be that the IMAP provider has
> changed it's frequency of removing marked messages; it may also be
> that
> in the past you were not seeing the marked messages and that may have
> been accidentally changed (View -> Show Deleted Messages).
> 
> > 
> > Instead I would expect that after deleting an entire thread, the
> > next
> > message after the thread would be selected like this:
> > 
> >   -This is a thread-
> >     -Re: This is a thread-
> >       -Re: This is a thread-
> > > This is a new message
> > 
> > Again maybe it's always worked this way and I never noticed since
> > normally my deleted messages are immediately moved to trash.
> 
> I think that is the case. If the deleted messages aren't visible, it
> won't select them!
> 
> P.
> 
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