[Evolution-users] Is this normal?

Van Snyder van.snyder at sbcglobal.net
Fri Oct 17 23:26:18 UTC 2025


On Fri, 2025-10-17 at 23:55 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Fri, 2025-10-17 at 11:57 -0700, Van Snyder via evolution-users
> wrote:
> > Evolution 3.56.1-1 on KDE Plasma 6.3.6 on Debian Trixie 13 fills
> > the
> > bottom pane with
> > 
> > Re… Re… St… Re… Ch… Re… St… Ex… St… O… O…
> > 
> > Refresh doesn't work. Expunge doesn't work.
> > 
> > My accounts are IMAP.
> 
> But then a couple of messages later you say that it gets stuck on one
> of your local MH folders.

It gets stuck opening (usually) one folder when it's launched, but
sometimes several (it's stuck on two folders now after re-launching
about fifteen minutes ago. If I try to move messages from Inbox to MH,
for some folders it reliably works, but for several folders — always
from the same relatively small set — it gets stuck on them too. I tried
removing the *.cmeta and *.ibex.index and *.ibex.index.data files but
the folders still got stuck. Jeremy Bicha said he found the problem and
filed "Bug#1111605: evolution." He said he's working on a version for
Debian Trixie 13 unstable and would send me a beta to try, but he
hasn't gotten around to doing it yet.

> You seem to have had problems with the MH folders for about a year
> now.
> Do you actually *need* them to be MH format?  It might help if you
> converted them to Maildir format using something like the
> 'mh2maildir'
> script (make sure you keep a backup of the original directories
> though). Doing this will also indicate any issues with the MH files
> and
> possibly correct the issues as well as it does the conversion.

I tried to convert them to MailDir. The mh2maildir script reported many
"errors" and failed to convert about 10% of the messages.

I like that MH has files directly in each folder. It seems that MailDir
puts Inbox, Junk, and Trash subfolders in every folder. I haven't
searched for a way around that because the conversion script basically
didn't work.

> As for evolution getting stuck - the symptoms seem to indicate it is
> having problems accessing one or more folders. For IMAP folders, the
> usual cause is network issues: things like timeouts or routing
> problems, check that you don't have IPv6 enabled (or if you want to
> use
> it, check that all routes to the destination support it). For local
> folders it could be issues like corrupt files or directories, or even
> bad disk blocks - are there any indications of disk issues in the
> system logs?

There are no disk-related errors in system logs. "smartctl -t long"
followed by "smartctl -x" say the disks are fine. And the NVME is only
a few months old.

I think my router is IPv6 enabled. I don't know about the Spectrum
router ahead of it, and AFAIK I can't log in to it.

> Finally, if they are timeout issues, then you may need to wait longer -
> timeouts are sometimes of the order of 5, 10, 15 minutes.

I don't see symptoms of network delays and timeouts, unless they're
limited to the IMAP port — which seems unlikely.

> 
> P.
> 
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